Normally, Bruce never questions his own ability he questions the city’s ability to change. It’s kind of about him trying to find some element of hope, in himself, and not just the city. If I don’t do this, then there’s nothing else for me.’ I always read that as not like, ‘There’s nothing else,’ like, ‘I don’t have a purpose.’ But like: ‘I’m checking out.’ And I think that makes it a lot sadder. “And Bruce says: ‘This is my family legacy. There’s a moment when Alfred asks Bruce what his family would think of him tarnishing the family legacy with his new side hustle. But it’s not like a healthy thing that he’s done.” It’s like an extended crack-up. He’s created this intricate construction for years and years and years, which has culminated in this Batman persona. “And I kept trying to play into that, I kept trying to think, and I’m going to express this so badly, but there’s this thing with addressing trauma.… All the other stories say the death of his parents is why Bruce becomes Batman, but I was trying to break that down in what I thought was a real way, instead of trying to rationalize it. There’s this scene where he’s beating everyone up on this train platform, and I just love that there’s a bit in the script where the guy he’s saving is also just like: Ahh! It’s worse! You’re either being mugged by some gang members, or a monster comes and, like, fucking beats everybody up! The guy has no idea that Batman’s come to save him. The people of Gotham think that he’s just another symptom of how shit everything is. Like, it’s two years into it, and the crime has gotten worse since Bruce started being Batman. But this thing he’s doing, it’s not even working. But in this, it’s sort of implied that he’s had a bit of a breakdown. ’Cause, normally, in all the other movies, Bruce goes away, trains, and returns to Gotham believing in himself, thinking, I’m gonna change things here. He doesn’t have a playboy persona at all, so he’s kind of a weirdo as Bruce and a weirdo as Batman, and I kept thinking there’s a more nihilistic slant to it. “I’ve definitely found a little interesting thread. You really want back in a cave, I say, and he laughs a laugh of post-traumatic stress. He’s told that it’s reserved for another guest. I just looked at a photo of myself from April and I looked green.”Īt one point, as we enter a half-crowded restaurant together, his eyes zero in on a private cubby meant to accommodate a discrete party of diners. He laughs maniacally when he recalls those solitary hours in the dark: “I mean, I was really, really, really dead afterward. Though they finished shooting The Batman in April, Pattinson seems to have still only just mentally emerged from the cave. The cowl!” Hours, days, weeks, months, in the dark, in the suit, in the cowl. He’d said it a few times, and I had no idea what the hell he was talking about. There’s something about the construction of the cowl that makes it very difficult to read books, so you have to kind of almost lean forward to see out of the cowl.” “I’d be in the tent just making ambient electronic music in the suit, looking over the cowl. And mostly he would pass the time getting weird in the bat suit. You’re not really allowed out of the studio with the suit on, so I barely knew what was going on at all outside.” They built him a little tent off to the side of the set where he could go to decompress. Even just being in the suit all the time. “And the nature of the shoot was so kind of insular, always shooting at night, just really dark all the time, and I felt very much alone. The set, on the outskirts of London, manifested as a “bubble within a bubble,” he says.
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The delays ultimately stretched the shoot to 18 months-approximately the total time on set of every other Robert Pattinson movie of late combined. I remember when that seemed like the worst thing that could go wrong.” Soon, of course, there were far greater obstacles brought on by the unprecedented global pandemic, which triggered production shutdowns, including the one precipitated by his own “very embarrassing” positive in September 2020, right as everyone was due back from the first interminable break. So the whole first section was trying to keep working out-looking like a penguin. “Then I broke my wrist at the beginning of it all, doing a stunt, even before COVID. Things got off to an auspicious enough start when shooting began at the end of 2019. Get into the bat cave, bank some gains, then charter a new voyage out into riskier film waters again.
But a little mainstream exposure, by way of The Batman, was just as deliberate a choice as turning away in the first place. His reputational swerve away from blockbuster moviemaking had taken such a firm hold in recent years that Reeves, who had been thinking of Pattinson while writing The Batman, wasn’t sure Pattinson would be interested in ever returning from his art-house walkabout.